A Cup of Mormon Coffee
Sunday, July 15, 2012
It is secret and not sacred....
Wednesday, July 4, 2012
Saturday, June 2, 2012
Please pray about supporting this mission trip
I am going to Manti, Utah to witness at the Mormon Miracle Pageant and I trying to raise money and awareness for this issue. If you are interested in supporting this mission, please consider going to one of these sites and ordering something. 100% of the profits are going toward this mission.
www.marykay.com/sroberts137
and
www.youravon.com/sandiroberts
Or if you're not interested in any of those items, and you still want to be a part of it, you can paypal to spiriteddancer137@gmail.com. Thanks! You can also go to
http://sandiroberts.avonrepresentative.com/online_event/view.php?rep_spnsr_evnt_id=316166
and
http://www.gofundme.com/p1io0
Thank you all so much!
www.marykay.com/sroberts137
and
www.youravon.com/sandiroberts
Or if you're not interested in any of those items, and you still want to be a part of it, you can paypal to spiriteddancer137@gmail.com. Thanks! You can also go to
http://sandiroberts.avonrepresentative.com/online_event/view.php?rep_spnsr_evnt_id=316166
and
http://www.gofundme.com/p1io0
Thank you all so much!
Friday, February 17, 2012
Temple...
This is from Elder John A. Widstoe on Temple work. See if you can tell me what's wrong with this statement.
"Through obedience to the first principles of the Gospel, and a subsequent blameless life, a person may win salvation for himself. But in God's kingdom are many gradations, which lead to exaltation upon exaltation. Those who hunger and thirst for righteousness and labor for the fulfillment of the promise involved in the gift of the Holy Ghost will advance farther than those who placidly sit by with no driving desire within them. Temple worship is an avenue to exaltation in God's kingdom."
1. Through obedience - To ALL the commandments. Remember there are well over 600 of them.
2. A subsequent blameless life - WHO can do that? That means a sinless life and only Christ can do that.
3. A person may "WIN" salvation for himself - WIN salvation? Like it's a prize at a fair? Christ paid for that salvation and it's not something to be won by our own good works. Seriously!
4. Exhaltation upon exhaltation - Ok. The doctrine of eternal progression? Does that mean that God can be a better God? What about Jesus? Can He progress too, into being a better, bigger God?
Skip to the end...
5. Temple worship is an avenue to exaltation in God's kingdom - What exactly about temple work is getting you closer to God? What happens in there that was NOT done by Jesus on the cross?
This is why the doctrines of Mormonism is so heartbreaking to me. And I found this on an online message board. The lady said she loved this whole section and that just makes my heart break.
"Through obedience to the first principles of the Gospel, and a subsequent blameless life, a person may win salvation for himself. But in God's kingdom are many gradations, which lead to exaltation upon exaltation. Those who hunger and thirst for righteousness and labor for the fulfillment of the promise involved in the gift of the Holy Ghost will advance farther than those who placidly sit by with no driving desire within them. Temple worship is an avenue to exaltation in God's kingdom."
1. Through obedience - To ALL the commandments. Remember there are well over 600 of them.
2. A subsequent blameless life - WHO can do that? That means a sinless life and only Christ can do that.
3. A person may "WIN" salvation for himself - WIN salvation? Like it's a prize at a fair? Christ paid for that salvation and it's not something to be won by our own good works. Seriously!
4. Exhaltation upon exhaltation - Ok. The doctrine of eternal progression? Does that mean that God can be a better God? What about Jesus? Can He progress too, into being a better, bigger God?
Skip to the end...
5. Temple worship is an avenue to exaltation in God's kingdom - What exactly about temple work is getting you closer to God? What happens in there that was NOT done by Jesus on the cross?
This is why the doctrines of Mormonism is so heartbreaking to me. And I found this on an online message board. The lady said she loved this whole section and that just makes my heart break.
Monday, July 18, 2011
Mormons and being "Christian"
Oh, Mormons love to be called "Christian". But I noticed something interesting while at the Mormon Miracle Pageant. They would say, "We are Christian", but in the same breath, "Don't listen to the Christians!" They would walk through a group of us and say, among many things, "Oh, these are the Christians". Aren't they the ones who would fight to the death to say they are Christian, yet would tell others not to listen to us? What is the difference? Oh, we're "those" Christians. Huh? If they wanted to be called Christians, then why wouldn't they want anyone to listen to us? If their belief is enough to be warranted being called Christian, then there shouldn't be any issue with speaking with us about that belief. Right? Wrong. The LDS people at the Pageant didn't want to talk to the "Christians", wouldn't allow us on Temple Grounds, although we're all "Christians", wouldn't allow us to bring our backpacks into the bathrooms, because we might be "Christian" in there and wouldn't allow us to "Evangelize" on the grass which was "Church property". Does any of that make sense? Or is it the height of hypocracy?
They want society to accept them as Christian, yet won't allow "Christians" into their Temples, won't let us talk about Jesus on Church Property and will threaten to arrest us if we do. What exactly is "Christian" about that?
Christianity does not teach that Jesus and Satan are brothers.
Christianity does not teach that God, Jesus and the Holy Ghost are the "three gods we worship" - Mormon Doctrine, Bruce McConkie.
Christianity does not teach that men can become gods.
Christianity does not teach that God used to be a man and worked his way up the ladder to godhood.
Christianity does not teach that there is a heavenly mother, although not mentioned much in LDS Doctrine DOES exist as she (or many wives) literally gave birth to us in the pre-existance.
Christianity does not teach that we need a prophet on the earth.
Christianity does not teach that we need modern day revelation.
Christianity does not teach that we need additional books to "restore" the Gospel.
Christianity does not teach that we need to perform ordinances in a Temple either for our salvation or the salvation of someone else.
Christianity does not teach that we need to listen to the words of man to get us closer to God.
Mormonism teaches those things. Yet, Mormons are "Christians". No. They are not. Christianity doesn't teach what Mormons believe, so how can they be "Christian"? I do not believe what Mormons teach, so I am not to be called a Mormon. They say because they follow Jesus that they are Christian, yet they follow the prophet. They believe in Jesus, yet that doesn't make them Christians. Even the demons believe.
If you have faith in Jesus Christ ALONE, that HIS works save us and our works are as filthy rags, if we admit with our mouths that Jesus is Lord and believe in our hearts that God raised Him from the dead we will be saved. That makes us Christian. A follower of Jesus Christ, NOT Thomas S. Monson or Joseph Smith.
They want society to accept them as Christian, yet won't allow "Christians" into their Temples, won't let us talk about Jesus on Church Property and will threaten to arrest us if we do. What exactly is "Christian" about that?
Christianity does not teach that Jesus and Satan are brothers.
Christianity does not teach that God, Jesus and the Holy Ghost are the "three gods we worship" - Mormon Doctrine, Bruce McConkie.
Christianity does not teach that men can become gods.
Christianity does not teach that God used to be a man and worked his way up the ladder to godhood.
Christianity does not teach that there is a heavenly mother, although not mentioned much in LDS Doctrine DOES exist as she (or many wives) literally gave birth to us in the pre-existance.
Christianity does not teach that we need a prophet on the earth.
Christianity does not teach that we need modern day revelation.
Christianity does not teach that we need additional books to "restore" the Gospel.
Christianity does not teach that we need to perform ordinances in a Temple either for our salvation or the salvation of someone else.
Christianity does not teach that we need to listen to the words of man to get us closer to God.
Mormonism teaches those things. Yet, Mormons are "Christians". No. They are not. Christianity doesn't teach what Mormons believe, so how can they be "Christian"? I do not believe what Mormons teach, so I am not to be called a Mormon. They say because they follow Jesus that they are Christian, yet they follow the prophet. They believe in Jesus, yet that doesn't make them Christians. Even the demons believe.
If you have faith in Jesus Christ ALONE, that HIS works save us and our works are as filthy rags, if we admit with our mouths that Jesus is Lord and believe in our hearts that God raised Him from the dead we will be saved. That makes us Christian. A follower of Jesus Christ, NOT Thomas S. Monson or Joseph Smith.
Blacklisted....
Well... that didn't last long. Met with the missionaries on Saturday and brought out "Gospel through the Ages" which discusses the belief that the LDS believe they can become gods. We talked through that, but it was obvious that they were not equipped to discuss such deep doctrine. They told me that a book like that isn't good to read. But it was written for members of the church, as a teaching guide. I told them that if it's not good to read, then why was it even printed and released? They agreed that the doctrine in it was accurate, then why shouldn't I read it? They then brought up "Mormon Doctrine"!!!! They said that some of the doctrine in there was "iffy". I said, then WHY would an APOSTLE be allowed to write something that the church allowed to be used to lead people astray and why was he allowed to remain in such a high position at the church if he was so wrong? They didn't have any answer. They said they had another appointment and they had to go. I asked them if they wanted to meet again and they said, "oh, yeah." I said, "When?" They said, "We'll call you tonight." That was Saturday night and it's Monday... nothing. So, I'm guessing I'm blacklisted again. I'm going to give them a call if I don't hear anything in a couple of days.
Some people still wonder why I meet with the Mormons. It's easy... I love them. I think they are worth every second of time spent with them. I believe God loves them and I believe they are misled. Period. I refuse to give up on them. Why should I? God didn't give up on me and there were many times He easily could have. We all are loved by God. He wants to see the LDS people come to know Him as the God from Everlasting to Everlasting, all eternity to all eternity. Not as an exalted man with a body of flesh and bones. Not as a man who went through the motions to "become" a god and was even possibly a sinner in his pre-existant life. Read Moroni 8:18, and Isaiah 43:10. He is God forever, no other God formed before or after, because He is God from everlasting to everlasting. There is no other God.
Some people still wonder why I meet with the Mormons. It's easy... I love them. I think they are worth every second of time spent with them. I believe God loves them and I believe they are misled. Period. I refuse to give up on them. Why should I? God didn't give up on me and there were many times He easily could have. We all are loved by God. He wants to see the LDS people come to know Him as the God from Everlasting to Everlasting, all eternity to all eternity. Not as an exalted man with a body of flesh and bones. Not as a man who went through the motions to "become" a god and was even possibly a sinner in his pre-existant life. Read Moroni 8:18, and Isaiah 43:10. He is God forever, no other God formed before or after, because He is God from everlasting to everlasting. There is no other God.
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